Wednesday, December 29, 2010

In Rebuilds I Trust...Begrudgingly

Okay, first off, these titles will need some serious help, but I will explain out this one easily: going into this season Garth Snow made a ton of long term moves that may help the team out in a few short seasons. Obviously drafting Nino Niederreiter, Brock Nelson and Kirill Kabanov added three very talented Forwards to a growing cache of prospects, but Garth added a skilled Defenseman in Tony DeHart (a 5th year exemption player for the OHL Oshowa Generals with first round pick and currently re-injured-at-the-WJHC Calvin de Haan), Forward Jason Clark and goalie Cody Rosen (more on Islanders netminding another time).

Garth had a good draft, as usual, he's drafted incredibly well since taking over as GM. If Kabanov gets his head screwed on right, Garth instantly looks like a genius, more so than Bob Murray does for grabbing Cam Fowler 12th overall. However, it's not the draft that Garth put together that's most impressive, it was the additions to the overall talent pool that are most striking.

Yes, Bridgeport is a very young squad this year and playing only slightly better than their major league affiliate, but the focus of this piece is a level lower and the East Coast Hockey League and the depth and talent pool brought in to the Kalamazoo K-Wings that has a chance to shine on Long Island in a few seasons with proper development. A few of these last names will sound familiar due to more famous older brothers (the Islanders have a habit of grabbing younger brothers, yet never got a Staal, sad, missed out on Marc by three picks in 2005).

A look at the Defensemen, in order: Wes O'Neill, Mitch Versteeg, Steve Tarasuk, Corey Syvret

First up is Wes O'Neill: (photo used from Swedish Islanders Wordpress blog)

O'Neill was actually an Islanders 4th round draft pick in 2004, the 6'4 215lb D man spent college at Notre Dame and found his way into the Avalanche system making 5 NHL appearances in the past two seasons. O'Neill began the year at Kalamazoo, but is now at Bridgeport having scored 5 points in 17 games while playing to a +6 rating. O'Neill fits a shutdown D sort of profile throughout his career never taking too many penalties, and not being an all out offensive D-Man. In the wake of yesterday's James Wisniewski trade, O'Neill looks like a candidate for a call up if Dustin Kohn or Dylan Reese are felled by injury and someone is needed from Bridgeport.


Mitch Versteeg: (Picture from Versteeg's K-Wings Bio Page)


Not to be confused with older brother Kris, Mitch is a physical D Man who knows what he's doing with the Puck, his point totals are meager this year (his second in the ECHL, but first as an Islanders farm hand, was brought in in July with other undrafted/"minor League" free agents along with team mates Tarasuk, Syvret, and Justin Taylor) with 6 points in 22 games for the K-Wings, last year Versteeg collected 20 in 68 games while also appearing in three games for the Worcester Sharks in the AHL. Mitch just turned 22, so plenty of time to round into form, he's only a -4 so far, so it's not like he's clueless on D.

Steven Tarasuk: (Picture from Tarasuk's K-Wings Bio Page, also ladies, ain't he cute?)

Typically age 20 D men in the Major Junior leagues are expected to produce and Tarasuk did way more than that in his age 20 for the London Knights in '09-'10, Tarasuk only tripled his point production jumping from 20 in 08-09 to 67 (19 goals, 48 assists after previously recording no more than 3 goals in any season). Playing with Nazem Kadri certainly helped. Tarasuk picked up another 10 points in the playoffs for London. Unlike many of his London team-mates however, Tarasuk went un-drafted, though did appear in a few playoff games for former Islanders ECHL affiliate the Utah Grizzlies for their play off run producing no points in 2 games played. This year in his first year of pro hockey and he's put up 11 points, 2 goals and 9 assists, in 24 games to go with 15 PIM and a -7...but if he can become the puck moving D-Man that he was last season at London, Garth has found an un-drafted STEAL.

Corey Syvret: (Picture from Syvret's K-Wings Bio Page)


If the adage is that Defensemen develop slower than Forwards then Corey Syvret's going to need all the Time the Islanders will give him. The 21 year old Syvret (who rooms with former OHL rival Tarasuk) is pointless through 20 games this year, collecting 14 PIM and is a -8 on the season. Syvret tallied 30 points last year for Geulph and got into 4 games with the Rochester Americans picking up an assist. However, Florida GM Dave Tallon didn't want to roll the dice on the former 6th rounder and let him go allowing Garth to pounce on the 6'2 195 lb Defenseman. While he's yet to score any points, in a story about Tarasuk and Syvret a few weeks ago in Kalamazoo mentioned coach Nick Bootland's praise for Syvret in learning the system and adjusting to the league.

Finally, forward Justin Taylor: (Picture from Taylor's K-Wings Bio Page)


I have to admit, I started looking at Taylor's numbers in rookie camp and was absolutely FLOORED by the production I saw. Now, it's entirely possible that the Washington Capitals and Taylor couldn't come to an agreement after the 2007 6th rounders production went through the roof (18 points in his draft year shot up to 55 in '07-'08, somewhat like Matt Martin) but Taylor kept improving adding 67 and 62 point campaigns to a resume; I can only assume his agent demanded first round money/bonuses and George McPhee laughed him out of his office or hung up immediately. Taylor never signed with the Capitals and was considering going to college before he got a call from the Islanders to come to Rookie camp with a shot at opening the season at Bridgeport (I will find and post the link later); Taylor won a roster spot with the Sound Tigers and got into 6 games, sensing he needed ice time for his development he was sent down to Kalamazoo and has more or less set the place ablaze. in 13 games Taylor has racked up 7 goals, 5 assists, 41 PIM, and a -3 rating. Taylor plays Center which is stacked with the Isles AND Bridgeport, but at 21 and producing, his time will surely come.

And now a fight including a number of Islanders prospects! (a Sarnia Sting-London Knights game from a few years ago, more on DiBo and Katic later)



While Garth Snow never made the BIG trade or signed the BIG guys this past summer, he added 5 guys to his minor league depth who will likely help in the long term more than one Paul Martin could have (still would have LIKED to get Martin or Anton Volchenkov or Zbynek Michalek, etc) but if these guys pan out, they'll certainly make us realize Garth's plan.

The Curious Case of Sebastien Thinel (Updates Photo and Video!)

Buried deep in Texas is a hockey player playing so far above his level of play it's almost criminal. He's been stranded in the Central Hockey League with the Odessa Jackalopes (save for a 2 game stint with Cincinnati during the '02-'03 season, and a year in Rouen, France) for nearly a decade. No, he's no up and coming youngster and in Hockey years he's essentially done, yet somehow during our mythical re-build he has never been broached as a guy to bring in and see what he can do.

By the Title you can guess this player's name: Sebatstien Thinel; he's 29 and Odessa's key sniper as well as one of their Alternate Captains. Jackalopes Captain David van Drunen is back with the team and netted 5 points in 13 games after a vicious pre-season sucker punch in Colorado that saw a number of bones in his face broken.

Here's a more detailed account I wrote on Thinel in an email to another Islanders blogger:

Sebastian and twin Marc-Andre are products of St. Jerome, Quebec born March 24, 1981.

Sebastien, undrafted, spent juniors with the Victoriaville Panthers (current Islanders hot shot netminding prospect Kevin Poulin also an alum), the Quebec Remparts, and Drummondville in the QMJHL. his first year with Victoriaville was nothing spacial netting 39 points in 60 games, that number jumped to 95 in 99-00 w/ Victoriaville on a team featuring his twin brother (who led the squad with 125 Pts), Antoine Vermette and Matt Lombardi. The '00-'01 season featured a 118 point campaign in 72 games. spending the next season between Quebec and Drummondville the point total plummeted, to a mere 92, now I'm not sure if there were disciplinary issues for Sebastien that led to him moving onto Quebec/Drummondville, but he did and continued to produce.

Thinel found his way to the CHL and Odessa (a LONG way from home) in the '02-'03 season netting 47 points in 57 games, won him a 2 game look with Cincinnati and the AHL, but 0 points. He then produced 67 points in 64 games for Odessa in '04, 55 PTs/59 GP in '05, 91 points in '06 before joining his brother in France for a season where he put up 55 points in 26 games. Returning to Odessa in '08, he netted 83 points and each of the next two years an identical 97 points (the '08-'09 and '09-'10 campaigns). He was named the CHL MVP in '08-'09, and won their equivalent of the Rocket Richard.


He's a playmaker and a scorer, his MVP campaign featured 38 goals and 59 assists, and his first CHL 90 point campaign: 40/51/91 ('05-'06). In last season's CHL Playoffs Thinel got 23 points (8/15) in 13 games. In addition to these qualities Thinel stands up for himself and teammates (or takes a lot of stupid penalties) averaging 45 penalty minutes a year, not too shabby for a guy who's main goal is to put pucks in the net, a LOT...

This season in 28 games Thinel has 16 goals and 29 assists as well as a +13 (were he at Bridgeport or New York his numbers would lead both teams in scoring, as well as the Kalamazoo K-Wings), in his last 5 games he has netted 6 points, all assists, and a +1 rating.

With numbers like these the only possible explanation why he never got a shot at the AHL or NHL is he's a hothead, but seeing as he has a leadership role with Odessa, this doesn't appear to be the case.

He's under 30 (not for much longer though), and I think if given the opportunity may be just the guy to add to John Tavares' line NOW to give the Islanders a BADLY needed scoring punch. If the Islanders want to bring in help, shake things up and try to salvage something of a season, what can they possibly lose bringing in Thinel RIGHT NOW?

Hell, maybe he can get the offense started taking the pressure off Bailey and JT and help even out the pressure by moving Parenteau off the top line...it certainly doesn't hurt to give the guy a look, he resume says that he doesn't belong in the CHL...and if he clicks and sets Isles Country on fire, maybe he'll take the sting out of a disastrous fourth year of "the Rebuild."

Yes, many would argue that bringing in a guy who's only played two games above the CHL (in baseball terms think of it as A-ball) is yet another sign of "incompetence" by GM Garth Snow, but I beg to differ. This is a guy who's paid his dues, who only produces and in this "two steps back" sort of year gives us, the fans, a story to root for like last year with Matt Moulson. Garth caught lightning in a bottle with Moulson, and actually isn't looking too bad on signing Parenteau (his projections are all career highs, mainly because it will be his first complete season in the NHL, but still). Sebastien Thinel offers up a guy everyone can root for, is talented and won't cost a pick or leave on July 1 (okay, he might, but I would seriously doubt it).

Now for your viewing pleasure a Thinel Penalty Shot:

Welcome Aboard, I'll try not to bore you

Good Evening, or Morning, whichever.

I'm Matt, I'm a big time Islanders fan who's taking a stab at writing about the Islanders farm system from Bridgeport to Odessa and our draft picks in college and juniors, and if possible internationally (right now only Kirill Petrov and Anders Nilsson, if there's anyone else, please feel free to let me know). I can be found live tweeting Islanders games, but I take to hockeydb.com to find updates on prospects usually tweeting them out and letting them be lost in the Twitterverse. Now I'll attempt to organize my thoughts in this blog.

I will start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with the New York Islanders, a member of their Blog Box and such things. Also I am unable to watch many (if any) of these prospects, so it's numbers and news stories and the like. While I'd love to be able to travel to Mississauga and watch Casey Cizikas or travel to UND and update you on Jason Gregorie and Brock Nelson, I am unable to. I will however offer up their current numbers, any relevant news and my take on these prospects either helping the big squad or being used to augment the big squad.

Eventually I may branch out and discuss the draft (depending on how long I run this thing for) and discussing who the Isles have picked, but I'm not sure if I'll go round by round, or whatever. Also I'll look at players on all three affiliates squads and highlight who I think are players to watch. My first Post won't be about a young up and comer, I will promise you that.